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 Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect

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PostSubject: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:11 pm

As you all probably know the old rule on calling priority when you summon a monster no longer exists, and has been replaced by a new system called fast effects. The new fast effects are as Konami states: Quick Monster Effects, Quick Spells, all Traps. This is not a new thing but i have witnessed players on DN still calling priority, and the sad thing is some of them are good players with solid knowledge but just seam to have passed this.

In the old system some cards were broken because of this, because when your opponent ssed REDM or Black Luster Soldier and you used Bottomless he could just call priority and summon a dragon or banish your monster. Rescue Rabbit is probably the most famous example of some cards being broken because of priority. In the new system events that dont start a chain like Special Summon(lets say "normal" ss) or Normal summon can't use their effects right after they are summoned. I will illustrate it with an example including Black Luster Soldier.

Lets say turn player banishes 1 light and 1 dark monster and special summons BLS. The next thing to happen is to check if there are any trigger or continuous effects that are affected by the summon, if not the turn player has the opportunity to activate a Fast Effect card, it could be Forbidden Lance or maybe Royal Decree, let's assume he doesn't do anything... Now turn 2 player has the opportunity to use his Fast Effects, and he could use Bottomless Trap Hole, as it has a higher spell speed then BLS effect it just gets destroyed and banished and cannot use his effect. If non-turn player didn't use a card the turn player could continue with his play and ss another monster or use BLS eff or whatever he plans to.

There are a lot of monsters affected by this like:
Rescue Rabbit
Dark Armed Dragon
Black Luster Soldier
Red-eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Elemental Hero Diamond Dude
Scrap Dragon

Hope this will be of help to someone who still hasn't cleared it out, and don't let people abuse and cheat on DN because you CAN now use Fiendish Chain or Effect Veiler when Rescue Rabbit is summoned.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:34 pm

Yeah i got this problem a few times where my opponent chains its eff to my bottomless traphole O.o. now i shall just link this to them and see them ragequit xD.
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:23 pm

i don't get this


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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:51 pm

Makes perfect sense Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:20 am

Good lesson guy. It's a very helpfull, cuz some members don't know about it


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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:16 am

Very helpful. All you have to do is remember spell speed a card eff had the same speed as a trap or quick play spell card


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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:11 am

i see so if its all about the speed of the effect bottomless beats monster effects as does counter and quickplay and on up the line
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:35 am

a good exazmple of effect speed is ally of justice castor and grand mole grand mole effect speed beats castors because he is already in your hand when castors effect activates
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:34 am

Catastor is manditory eff, i actiates first, then ground mole's eff activates. chains resolve backwrds so, ground mole sends both cards to hand catastor ad ground mole are no longer on feild, so ground mole wins. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Lesson 1 for Destiny Hero Members by YangWenli - Fast effect   Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:25 pm

so i was right but i was looking at the chain wrong lol i didnt now a chain resoves backwards thanks
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